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Domestic PV solar inverter noise - VK3LU - 31-01-2024
Has anyone had any experience with the above rooftop system inverters causing rfi?
I am considering having a new system installed by Solarhart, so any feedback would be very welcome regarding their inverters.
Nev
RE: Domestic PV solar inverter noise - VK5PJ - 02-02-2024
Hello Nev,
roof top micro inverters can be a gamble for RFI, once they are in they are almost impossible to work on or do suppression work on as there are so many of them and mounted behind the panel on your roof. As Steve mentioned one of the good brands of inverters is Fronius or SMA,, both from the heart of the EU where EMI and radiated interference is taken seriously.
Shop around, ask questions about WHAT Inverter they provide, many of the inverter brands now are sourced from China where they do not care about RFI. One brand sold into VK4 had an 'optional' RFI section on the PCB but it was never populated with components as they worked out no one cared about it as long as it cut the costs, so they left all of the RFI suppression off the PCB and put links in instead.
Please do not be drawn in by the cheapest price as it will probably result in a life of terror for you each time you want to listen to the radios. I have had an SMA inverter (very quiet) and currently have two Fronius inverters here, one only a few metres from the shack and tower, no RFI detectable from our two solar systems. There are many people on the forums or the VKspotter with horror stories about roof top solar noise I hope your not the next one.
Workmanship when installing will be important, they are required to earth thing properly but often these steps get done with the thinnest cable possible or just not at all. The way they run / route the DC cable to the inverter can also be of interest to you as typically the most noise is radiated from the long DC lead from the panel to the inverter so this can be a make or break part of the build, this is where the better inverters have good filtering on the DC leads to stop the switch mode noise products going up the long DC leads to the panels (perfect antennas for noise radiation). A lot of Modern inverters have FANS in them for cooling, so do not site the inverter (if you go with a traditional inverter) close to a living area window where it might annoy you during the day.
As both Steve and I mentioned, micro inverters can be a gamble, I am told there are good ones but I have not ever seen a reference as to which are good or bad, where as the traditional inverters are less risky if you go with one of the 'safe' brands. I know it will cost more but in the long run the extra I paid for my choice of inverter has never been a regret and has served to re-enforce that it can be done right if you take some time at the beginning.
hope this in some way helps with your choices.
RE: Domestic PV solar inverter noise - VK3RX - 02-02-2024
I haven't gone down the path of solar, but have heard a couple of tips.
If considering an installer, find out some addresses they've done with the components you are considering and see if you can attend and check out the RFI situation there with a receiver.
Also with your installation, ensure any cabling is a bit longer than required so if necessary you can later add ferrites.
RE: Domestic PV solar inverter noise - VK3LU - 02-02-2024
Thanks Steve, Peter and Damien.
The system I am looking at does not use micro inverters. The next size up uses power optimisers on each panel which bypass the panel if it is shaded, thereby effectively removing a series resistor. The optimisers are controlled by the inverter.
The inverter in the system I prefer is made by ABB a european manufacturer of long standing so that should be in my favour. The other inverters in their range are Chinese.
It will be interesting!
RE: Domestic PV solar inverter noise - VK3LU - 19-05-2024
Update.
The solar system has been running since early March and I am pleased to report that I cannot detect an increase in background noise.
The inverter is an ABB/Fimer.
Nev