FT8 and Q65 to JA during TEP on 2m
#21
hello Takashi san,
do you know how I can update the information listed on the DX maps site?  I had 6 contacts to JA from my station at VK8ZLX (grid PG66WH Alice Springs) in 1989

JA6GKW 10/04/1989 11:48:00 2m SSB VK8ZLX
JF6GXA 10/04/1989 11:58:00 2m SSB VK8ZLX
JI6QLO 11/09/1989 12:51:00 2m SSB VK8ZLX (Heard only)
JI6JUB 14/09/1989 10:57:00 2m SSB VK8ZLX
JR6CTI 14/09/1989 11:02:00 2m SSB VK8ZLX
JF6GXA 14/09/1989 11:07:00 2m SSB VK8ZLX (worked by vk8gf)
JI6QLO 14/09/1989 11:16:00 2m SSB VK8ZLX
JF6ILP 14/09/1989 11:18:00 2m SSB VK8ZLX
JE6MIN 14/09/1989 11:30:00 2m SSB VK8ZLX (worked by vk8gf)
Peter Sumner, vk5pj

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#22
Hi!

I checked your list by my old JA callbooks.

JF6GXA 40.Fukuoka Ookawa-City PM53EF
JI6JUB 40.Fukuoka Miyama-City PM53FC

JA6GKW 41.Saga Shiroishi-Town PM53CE
JE6MIN 41.Saga? Kanzaki-City? PM53EH? (not in old callbooks but is licensed now new or again?)

JR6CTI 42.Nagasaki Nagasaki-City PM42XS

JF6ILP 45.Miyazaki Miyazaki-City PM51RW
JI6QLO 45.Miyazaki Miyazaki-City PM51OW

FB DX! DE JR4ENY/1 AWAYA in Kawasaki
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#23
Well it looks like the Perth VK6RPH 144.460MHz Beacon frequency is being monitored in JA.

The Beacon operates on a 24hr basis on CW, JT65C and JT4F but only in the TX mode.

73

Igor
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#24
Hi!

pse remember BY and BV stations use 144.460 FT8 too.

BV Taiwan
BM3JGM BM6HMB BM7IER BU2AD BU2AE BU2BV BU2DV BU2EL BU2EQ BU2ES
BU2FF BU2FU BU2GA BV2DI BV2KI BV2LA BV2NF BV2NT BV2QS BV2YA
BV3CE BV3UF BV4VR BV4VU BV5OQ BV5OS BV5PD BV6KM BV6KO BV7FO
BV7KL BV7RJ BV7SH BX2AB BX2ABT BX2AGP BX2AIO BX2AJF BX2AJU BX4AL
BX4AQ BX5ABE BX7ACA BX7ACN BX9AA BX9AAE

BY1 Beijing
BA1PK BH1RQN BH1VCS BH1XEC BI1JBV BI1JPC BI1NIM BI1NIZ BI1NJI BI1NLM BI1OHW

BY2A Heilongjiang
BA2BI BG2AZY BG2CX BG2EFX

BY2I Jilin
BD2LA BG2KAJ

BY2Q Liaoning
BG2TBG BH2RMX BH2RSJ BH2VSQ

BY3A Tianjin
BD3CB BH7ACO/3

BY3M Hebei
BA3MM BD3MSK BH3RQW

BY3S Shanxi
BH3TES

BY4A Shanghai
BA3GG/4 BD4ACW BD4AHS BD4CRN BG4ACY BG5DTR/4 BH4BNQ BH4DCE BH4FBB BH4FCY

BY4I Shandong
BA4MY BD4IEE BD4ITM BH4IWK BI4IXG BI4JAT BI4MBC

BY4Q Jiangsu
BA4REB BA4SCP BA4SI BA4UNT BA4VE BA4WI BA4XX BD4QB BD4QFC BD4QJP
BD4RCC BD4RHV BD4RQ BD4RVC BD4SBN BD4SDO BD4SDX BD4SVU BD4SYH BD4TS
BD4TXE BD4TZY BD4UJ BD4UUB BD4VGZ BD4VLV BD4VQK BD4WN BD4WSQ BG4QOJ
BG4RTK BG4TXA BG4UCZ BG4USS BG4XXV BH4FUO BH4QYX BH4SCF BH4TIH BH4TNQ
BH4TVU BH4UJC BH4UMN BH4WPN BH4WQR BH4XTE BI4RBD BI4SSB BI4TGJ BI4VIP
BI4VNM BI4VTX BI4WRP BI4WRQ BI4WTW BI4WXD BY4RSA BY4TYX

BY5A Zhejiang
BD5BMV BG5BAA BG5CNL BG5CPS BG5FCH BG5GNC BG7XWF/5

BY5Q Fujian
BG5TVX BG5UEZ BG5UZW BG5VEC

BY6A Anhui
BG6CCF BG6CJR BG6FHR BH6AGG BY6DX

BY6I Henan
BA6KC BD6JN BD6JO BH6JDR BH6KWC BI6LFJ BI6MQW

BY6Q Hubei
BG6QED BG6RJN BG6TPE

BY7A Hunan
BA7BK

BY7I Guangdong
BA7IO BA7LAC BA7NQ BD7IBX BD7IS BD7OH BG7IFP BG7IKK BG7NF BH7JFR

BY7Q Guangxi
BD7TBP

BY8M Guizhou
BG8PM BH8NSC

BY9A Shaanxi
BD9BU

VR2 Hong Kong
VR2ZXP

FBDX! de JR4ENY/1 AWAYA PM95SN
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#25
It's on again. 2mtrs open to JA when TEP distorts 6mtr FT8 signals. But you have to wait for the path to form and support FT8 on 2mtrs.
I don't have an exact time frame to quote but there is definitely a waiting period before we see the JA's on 2mtrs and can decode them.
FT8 works fine on this band, it just comes down to timing.
Last nights excerpt from my 2mtr log file:
20240212_120400.115(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  CQ VK8AW PH57                       
20240212_120415  -3 -0.1  946 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51            ^
20240212_120430.080(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  CQ VK8AW PH57                       
20240212_120415 -21 -0.1 1925 ~ CQ JA6WHC PM53            *
20240212_120445  -9 -0.1  945 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51            ^
20240212_120445 -22 -0.1 1922 ~ CQ JA6WHC PM53            ^
20240212_120500.050(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  CQ VK8AW PH57                       
20240212_120503.222(0)  Retransmitting 144.46 MHz +2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -22                   
20240212_120515  -9 -0.1  952 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51
20240212_120530.131(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -22                   
20240212_120545 -16 -0.1  953 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51            ^
20240212_120600.098(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -22                   
20240212_120604.144(0)  Retransmitting 144.46 MHz +2099Hz  FT8:  CQ VK8AW PH57                       
20240212_120615 -15 -0.1  953 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51            ^
20240212_120630.064(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -21                   
20240212_120645 -13 -0.1  952 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51
20240212_120700.038(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -21                   
20240212_120715 -10 -0.1  950 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51            ^
20240212_120730.115(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -21                   
20240212_120745 -11 -0.1  949 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51            ^
20240212_120800.082(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -21                   
20240212_120815  -6 -0.1  949 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51            ^
20240212_120830.049(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -21                   
20240212_120845  -6 -0.1  948 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51            ^
20240212_120900.128(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -21                   
20240212_120930.142(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -21                   
20240212_120945 -19 -0.1 1923 ~ VK8RR JA6WHC R-15
20240212_121000.103(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -21                   
20240212_121005.463(0)  Retransmitting 144.46 MHz +2099Hz  FT8:  JA6DJS VK8AW -06                   
20240212_121015 -18 -0.1 1922 ~ VK8RR JA6WHC 73          ^
20240212_121030.079(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6DJS VK8AW -06                   
20240212_121040.680(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -18                   
20240212_121045  -4 -0.1  946 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51
20240212_121100.045(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -18                   
20240212_121115  -8 -0.0  945 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51            ^
20240212_121130  -2  0.0 1457 ~ CQ VK8RR PH57            ^
20240212_121145  -6 -0.0  946 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51            ^
20240212_121200  -1  0.0 1457 ~ CQ VK8RR PH57            ^
20240212_121215  -9 -0.0  947 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51            ^
20240212_121230  15  0.0 1102 ~ CQ VK8VTX PH57
20240212_121230  -4  0.0 1458 ~ CQ VK8RR PH57            ^
20240212_121245  -7 -0.0  948 ~ CQ JA6DJS PM51            ^
20240212_121300  12  0.0 1103 ~ CQ VK8VTX PH57            ^
20240212_121300  -3  0.0 1458 ~ CQ VK8RR PH57            ^
20240212_121330  20  0.0 1103 ~ CQ VK8VTX PH57            ^
20240212_121330  -2  0.0 1458 ~ CQ VK8RR PH57            ^
20240212_121400  16  0.0 1103 ~ CQ VK8VTX PH57            ^
20240212_122700  20  0.0 1102 ~ CQ VK8VTX PH57
20240212_122730  17  0.0 1102 ~ CQ VK8VTX PH57            ^
20240212_122800  7  0.0 1101 ~ CQ VK8VTX PH57            ^
20240212_122832.995(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -18                   
20240212_122845 -13  0.3 2143 ~ VK8VTX JH6RGU PM52
20240212_122900.117(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JA6WHC VK8AW -18                   
20240212_122900.993(0)  Retransmitting 144.46 MHz +2099Hz  FT8:  JH6RGU VK8AW -13                   
20240212_122915 -19  0.2 2143 ~ VK8VTX JH6RGU PM52        ^
20240212_122932.933(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JH6RGU VK8AW -13                   
20240212_122945 -22  0.2 2144 ~ VK8AW JH6RGU R-18        *
20240212_123000.059(0)  Transmitting 144.46 MHz + 2099Hz  FT8:  JH6RGU VK8AW -13                   
20240212_123001.154(0)  Retransmitting 144.46 MHz +2099Hz  FT8:  JH6RGU VK8AW RR73                   
20240212_123001.157(0)  QSO logged: JH6RGU
20240212_123015 -20  0.2 2160 ~ VK8AW JH6RGU 73          *

regards
VK8AW
2mtr National digital record holder (pending WIA action)
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#26
You have to wait until after the sun sets on the base of the ionosphere's F-layer at the geomagnetic equator on the mid-point of the JA-VK path.

Q65 from the WSJT suite is better equipped to handle the propagation properties of night-time TEP. Don't forget SSB, either!

Don't stick to 2m, give 70cm a crack, too. Skeds would be better than random.
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#27
(13-02-2024, 05:44 PM)VK2ZRH/4 Wrote: You have to wait until after the sun sets on the base of the ionosphere's F-layer at the geomagnetic equator on the mid-point of the JA-VK path.

Q65 from the WSJT suite is better equipped to handle the propagation properties of night-time TEP. Don't forget SSB, either!

Don't stick to 2m, give 70cm a crack, too. Skeds would be better than random.

The waiting period is well into the night, hence variations. But appears to coincide with the level of disruption to 6mtr FT8 sigs.

SSB works well and i have been doing it.

I plan on moving to 70cm when i have antennas in place. This is on hold due to wet season.

Not sure if the JA's are willing to move to Q65 as they also work BV and BD around the same times.

cheers
VK8AW
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#28
Hi Gary

With the success your having with FT8 & SSB seems little point in moving to Q65 and all the variants associated with it.

Cheers Brian
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